Opera user gathering

Last night I went to Opera user gathering in Eslité Café to meet Andreas Bovens, Group Leader of Developer Relations at Opera Software. He is the person who lead a team of talents at Opera, creating wonderful documentations about web standard for web developers.

There are about 10 people showed up, and we discussed a lot of issues about the web, the Taiwanese market and users, and coming features of Opera. I showed Andreas how Telnet BBS works, and just like Gen he was shocked how come there are still people use this thing, and the biggest social network website in Taiwan is not even an website.

Vincent Li, VP of sales in Taiwan talked about how Opera provide a viable solution to mobile makers, compare to open source solutions like Gecko or Webkit. It turns out the rendering engine of Opera itself is design to be slim and fast, and all Opera has to do is to hire a lot of people to deliver different UI for different devices; this solution proved to be more successful than asking companies hires their own developer to modify source code of OSS browsers.

Jack Wu, the person contracted to translate Opera UI since Opera 7 also showed up. We had a little talk about how he gets feedback from users on UI names; currently Opera pass these information as a ordinary software company, with customer service and issue trackers, but Jack said he would like to see if it’s possible to build up an online forum of users.

Andreas introduced us some of the coming features on Opera 10 Presto 2.3 (post Opera 10), like round borders and border images; Opera will also support CSS transition on coming version. He asked us what browser features we would like to see for the Taiwanese users; Jack mentioned Traditional-Simplified Chinese conversion, and I simply went through the top extensions list on MozTW website, and discussed why people cannot leave IE6, IE shell, or IE Tab because of IE only websites and banking services, and how popular Telnet BBS is so people are tied to PCMan; that’s when I ended up demo BBS to him with Othree‘s Mac. We also discussed in great detail about mobile browsers and websites.

Peko Wan, Communications Manager in Taiwan, who held the event (thanks, by the way), talked about how she would like to bootstrap Opera community in Taiwan. With Bob, they also discussed about how can we join forces to promote web standards. She also told us Opera is going to announce something big next Thursday; they will hold a luncheon with the media in Taipei. So if you are an Opera user, stay tuned to her blog on these matter.

Opera is really successful among B2B market, for B2C, I do think Opera Taiwan and MozTW could do a lot of things together.

Lastly, didn’t I mentioned I am a Opera user too? As a locale maintainer, of course Mozilla Firefox is the choice of browser when it comes to desktop, but on a mobile phone, Opera Mini is the choice, yeah!

Mozilla as a social moment of the open web

Some reflection from recent MozTW offline events and PCHome magazine interview we gave:

The web applications and the browsers will become the so-called “the cloud computing” environment, where everything you wrote, song, and filmed are stored and shared between people. Every piece of information will be interconnected.

That’s what the trend had told me, from big things like Google building a browser, to small everyday things like identities and information being shared and transfered between websites.

Here is what Bob said when he heard that from me (well, not the exact words of course, since I am writing it down here in English):

If this is the trend, then the the role of Mozilla Foundation is to make sure what we believed in will be deeply embedded  into that future. The believes, like the web should be build upon open standards; identities should be decentralized; the information and the wisdom within should be easily preservable and sharable with the consent of the authors; etc.

Mozilla is a foundation that runs a software company, and a social moment of the open web.

Wow. Being a small contributer to the Firefox software, I never pictured so clearly this is what we do stands for. Glad to be one of us.

Mozilla, the social moment of open web. And they have plans… the fraking robots.

IE6 on the way out

application_icon_ie.png來自 Ajaxian 的消息,IE6 的佔有率正式小於 20% 。從 Net Applications 的數據看來,IE 整體的佔有率也第一次小於 70%。

不過根據某個我拿得到的可信數據,在台灣 IE6 的佔有率大約還是有 26%,而且那個網頁還有在剛進去的時候寫「您使用的瀏覽器是舊版,可能會有問題」的警告… 「可信」當然不是指這個 blog,畢竟這裡是 Firefox 相關站 (笑)。

看到這個數據,我也想要說「I won’t support IE6 in 2009」!去年底的時候寫 app 才卡在某個拖曳的問題許久,Fx 可以用發現 IE7 不能用,IE7 修完發現 IE6 不能用 …

倒是,要怎麼跟一般使用者表達希望你趕快換掉 IE6 這件事情呢?如果是用 PCMan 或是 KKman 的話,換掉對使用也完全沒有影響呀。這到底要怎麼解釋(Open PCMan 在啟動的時候檢查丟警告XD?)害我很認真的除了推 Firefox 還想要推薦 IE7 …